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Experimental Powerchair Base 4x4 - Part 1
Self built, technical Construction details - Started on 26th April 2003

Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5

 

The objective was/is to evaluate:

  1. The practicalities of 4x4 steering - "Tank Style", or "Skid Steer" and see how much it rips up carpets, tyres and how much power is consumed. I suspect it's only good for outdoors...

  2. The Difficulty of making a "balancing" powerchair (like the iBOT 3000) In so far as the basic electronics is concerned. Because I think I can do this using Solid State "model helicopter" Gyros, and other simple sensors and basic electronics.

  3. Find out how difficult it is to interface this new system, (and Model Aircraft Radio Control since its the same thing) with a standard Powerchairs Controller such as the Penny and Giles one fitted to my own F55s Powerchair.

  4. Have the ability to use this Powerchair base as both an off-road powerchair when going outdoors with say a Recaro "car" style seat, or as a Radio Controlled "Camera Platform" at other times. There is no reason it can't do both!
     

  5. To see how difficult it would be to design or build a better powerchair. (Its just not! A trained monkey could do it - me!)

OK Part 1 the design/build!  (Click an image to see a bigger view!)

 

 

There are no powerchair designers here! Just me and I am basically a plumber! So what does that say about the "experts"??? God knows.  Just don't ask for any drawings. The only one I have was on the back of a beer mat.

Click!First of all I laid out all the bits I already had, which means the pair of ex wheelchair motors from my F55s, a new Penny & Giles 100 Amp Pilot Plus power-chair controller from a Pride Mobility Blast Powerchair and four brand new trailer wheels and tyres bought from Halfords, a car part place...  

I took the two motors from my F55s Quickie wheelchair because the things were very clunky and the motor was noisy and  "hesitant" at times... Nothing that about 10 hours work, some new brushes, new cush drive rubbers and new gears wont fix!  But they are not "technically" available...  Still it CAN be done, I have my own ways...

These wheels were 350 x 8 tubeless tyres on steel 8" x 2" rims with four mounting holes at 115mm PCD or 107.5mm radius if you prefer. After several days staring at all the bits a cunning construction plan filtered in to my brain...  I wanted Tank steering, with chain drive to the wheels, simple compact and elegant engineering construction. No yucky steel brackets, added on bits etc, much thinking, but little cutting!!! I chose these wheels because they are readily available, cheap, chunky, strong, tubeless (less puncture problems!) and I spotted them in a local car accessory shop...

Here the spacers and the cross bars that join the gearboxes together are being drilled and tapped to M8 in my old lathe in my bedroom. The furniture polish (Mr Sheen) makes really useless cutting lubricant... But we use what we have   The Girlfriend is DEAD pleased! She LOVES finding metal swarf in bed and stuck in her feet when she gets up...  Everything had to be machined alloys and stainless steel cap screws... No bodging here... Oh AND Cheapish! OK, enough threading and turning...

 I decided to check out these 3 year old "used" wheelchair motors and look inside!  They DIDN'T look like this!  First I stripped them and tipped about 2 cups full of black burned carbon brushes!  And rust... No wonder they were a bit hesitant, and noisy!   Surprised they worked at all... No room for anything to turn!  If you have a powerchair that sees daily use then you must blow the dust out of the motors and replace the brushes AT LEAST annually. If not you are going to be stuck sooner or later. If you do they may well last forever. A important lesson learned.  Oh, you can just see my home made Gas Turbine's tailpipe sticking out at the top right of the picture if you click it!

OK They were completely stripped cleaned in soapy water, re-greased bearings, new brushes, and the commutator was cleaned up with a bit of fine emery paper. Good as new!

Gearboxes were cleaned only externally, for now, but I will be getting new internals, and new cush drives soon because they are clunky with lots of backlash... These will hopefully come from Rebel Replicas. In the meantime it will have to be noisy! (excessive backlash from too many wheelies previously) It will not break.

Those old brushes...These are a comparison, between the old motor brush and a new one. Some were much worse than this one on the left but I threw them out before I remembered to get a picture...

This whole project started as "something to do with all the spare wheelchair bits" I had kicking around, and the fact that I have a lathe in my room... Oh, and because I can...

Its design had to be as "close coupled" as possible (wheels as close together as possible) so that the "tank style" steering does not cause problems and its' "smooth" and controllable. Too far apart and it will struggle to turn and tear up tyres and carpets with my weight on it.

It was about this time I decided that it would also make a good powerchair base too for the street... I am a wheelchair user! So we have a problem... And we have another problem too!  I thought I might fit a big flywheel type weapon and compete in that Robot wars TV show!  So now I need three of these things! OR one that will do all three jobs... We will see what happens.

Did I mention 4 wheel drive? Well for tank style steering to work you need 3 things:
 
- 4 wheel drive
 
- LOTS of torque
 
- Wide overall track compared to the wheelbase

TaperLocks shown, allow Sprockets, Pulleys etc to be fitted to standard sized shafts like 20mm in this case. Extremely useful and solid fitting. They lock onto the shaft, not needing keys or splines although I fitted a key anyway for security.

A drive chain to connect the front two wheels to the rear ones achieves 4 wheel drive easily. These fit using TaperLock fittings as shown


OK too much brain work, my head hurts, time for some relaxation time So I am taking a rest.

This picture shows the NEXT larger taperlock fitting sat on the shaft as well as the sprocket one.. This one will allow me to also fit a modified V-Belt pulley. This pulley will have the "V" bit machined off, and four M10 holes tapped so that I can bolt the wheel on!  Sounds worse than it is of course!

This pulley is not shown here. This is how I intend to get power to the front wheels, with a 19 tooth sprocket on both the rear and the front wheel shafts. These shafts are "keyed" but this is a bad way to transfer a reversing torque load. The sprockets (and the wheels) will all use these "taperlock" fittings. These locate inside the sprocket, and clamp securely on to the shaft as a couple of Allen keys are tightened up.

Construction started! Finally  Bit basic to begin with. But the plan is in my head...!

The angle bits are already drilled, and the following pictures show how the spacers, cross pieces, and side rails all fit together using long 8MM bolts. The cross bits that go between the gearbox have been tapped to take the M8 bolts.

 

Another view so you can see what I am talking about... This time with the threaded bar joining both sides. View as above - but different angle.

Now much more built! Showing all four cross pieces, and all four side rails fitted as well as a sprocket and chain.
A view with the bottom aluminium plate fitted, and the wheels mounted on the motors, with the drive sprockets for the front wheels.
This is in the wrong place on the page! Out of sequence, blame the beer...
Showing how the front wheel axle and drive chain/sprocket will mount etc...
Close up of the motor, sprocket mounted to the shaft using a taperlock, and the modified pulley that now forms the mounting for those cheap wheels!

OK That's the end of the first day or part 1

 

More days below!

Part 1 | Part 2 | Part 3 | Part 4 | Part 5

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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