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The iBOT 4000 Powerchair TEST - Stair climbing and tyres...

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8. Stair climbing
This is one of the main reasons lots of people want this chair.  Lets get something straight.  Its not an alternative for proper lifts and ramps in say your home.  Too fussy, too much strain on carpets, components, your arms etc. You wouldn't want to use it full time to go upstairs and down every day.  It is not a substitute.  What it really does is give you access to the shop or pub that you cant otherwise get in on occasion.  Sometimes!

It really takes it out of the batteries and is not easy to do.  It does NOT require or use the iBOT Powerchairs balance system, and is basically just a simple mechanical system. The rear wheels rotate as a pair over each other.  You do need hand rails or rail and some upper body and arm strength.  Or an assistant  The only thing balancing the chair is yourself!  You decide to lean it back and forth to climb or descend.  The wheels just follow your lead.

We had a small problem when I tried to get into my local hotel, via 3 large concrete steps.  It overheated and halfway up step three it just froze!  A warning light (actually a thermometer on the display) came on and the chair refused to do anything further.  This was NOT the chairs fault, as it specifies only up to 17.5 stone.  I am obviously heavier than that and it freaked out the chair!  We had to disengage a brake, and manually allow it to descend the steps again with a push...  But now it would only allow Normal mode to be used and displayed a spanner on the screen!  Service required...

Now I am on a diet!


9. wheels/tyres
Here is a big problem.  In an attempt to keep its width narrow, and to make it look "non threatening" they chose to use some GREY tyres that are more normally seen on kids bicycles, or toys.  They are very thin, (1.5 Inches?) 12 inch diameter weak tube type tyres. 

This would be bad enough on the puncture front alone!  (weak thin construction MANY punctures!) But 4 wheel drive mode has a big problem turning as it uses skid steering. 

This literally tries to rip these feeble skinny tyres off their narrow wheel rims!  Again who would choose this setup?  Its plain silly!

One look at the tyres as you start to turn, and you will rapidly decide its a bad idea!  It actually renders the 4 wheel drive mode almost useless unless in snow, or on wet grass or loose surfaces.

It means that as you go up a ramp in the street for example and have to turn tight at the top so as to miss the wall and to go along the pavement you are tearing the tyres off the wheels!  It looks horrible! 

HERE is probably what I would use to replace them.

Although IF I could find tubeless tyres and rims that would be better still. 

A quick look on the internet found these wider stronger tyres that are far more suited to curb climbing, skid steering etc.  They are 6 x 3 inch  So they need a wider smaller diameter rim.  They are the same overall diameter as the iBOT ones at 12 inch, while giving a better ride due to much bigger sidewalls.  They are heavy construction, so less punctures, and generally tougher and better suited to the urban jungle!  The bigger sidewall gives a better ride and is more suited to 4 wheel drive mode in both skid steer situations, and when climbing curbs or rough surfaces.  Its not for fun that 4 x 4 off road vehicles use big fat tyres with large sidewalls!

They would of course need some new smaller but wider 6 x 3 inch wheel rims! 

Well A quick search on the net finds these alloy, polished ones, that are ideal, and twice as wide as the iBOT wheel rims. They are pretty cheap too.  It would take me about 2 hours to make a "hub" that fits these wheels to the iBOT and allows me to fit these tyres  - Back to the review!

 

Now I once decided to build a 4 wheel drive Powerchair base (here) and thought that it would have exactly the same problem.  So I chose to use MUCH stronger construction wheels and tyres so that skid steering was no problem. These are cheap, strong and best of all are tubeless.  But with my 18 stone on top they show little sign of twisting or ripping from the wheels even spinning on the spot!

So apart from being about 5 times harder wearing, more plies and belts used in construction so stronger, they are both easy to get, complete (with wheels) from almost any scooter or trailer specialist.  They cost about £15 each compared to the iBOT £7 plus a tube!

Why tubeless?  Because once upon a time I had a standard Powerchair.  It used to get punctures about 3 times a week due to broken glass from drunks and smashed bottles etc in and around the town centre.  I got very sick of this because being paralysed you cant just get out and fix it..   Have you noticed how few cars get punctures nowadays?  Well that due to modern tubeless tyres. 

The tube in a normal Powerchair (iBOT) tyre, is like a balloon blown up to 30 psi, and any sliver of glass or a thorn etc can pop it!  You can get hundreds of small things like glass, thorns etc in a tubeless tyre and never even know.  The hole just springs back closed and does not leak in most cases.  Tubeless for me is essential.

Those iBOT tyres, on both models are simply too weak and small, and fitted to rims that look too narrow to be any good in the urban jungle!  I would rip off a tyre, or come home with a puncture about 3 times a week!  Not good enough on a £17,000 chair.  They even know it because you get free extra tyres and tubes with it!  And instructions on how to fix it.

And I hate grey tyres.  They look like a refugee escaped from the hospital, and they wear out MUCH faster!  This is because the black in modern tyres is carbon.  Its essential, in making rubber sticky and flexible and in improving wear.  Grey tyres dont have this, (so the cant mark floors) but they crumble away instead due to lack of flexibility in the rubbers compound.  I have never had any problems with black tyres marking the floor anyway...

Since fitting my stronger tubeless tyres to my own Powerchair 4 years ago I have NEVER had another puncture. And they are still not worn noticeably!  To see these trailer wheels fitted look at the bottom of  this page.   The iBOT NEEDS something similar urgently if I am to use / want one.

 
Seat Height  (now lower): Rehab Seat: 18 inches
Maximum Drive Range: 12.4 miles (20.4 km) max
Max Speed: 6.8 mph (10.9km/h) programmable (too damned slow!)
Drive Wheels: 12 inches
Casters: 6 inches
Ground Clearance: 3 inches
Minimum Turning Radius:  (Meaningless but here it is) Standard: 39.8 inches (1012 mm)
4-Wheel: 29.9 inches (760 mm)
Balance: 30.6 inches (776 mm)
Remote: 31.6 inches (803 mm)
Length: 42.9-46.9 inches  including footrest
varies with seat size (too long)
Overall Width: 25.2-28.7 inches
Battery: Two x 67.2 volt;  7.2ah Weight 24 lbs each;
recharge time 8 hours
Weight: 289 lbs


 
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